drive position
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drive position
Hello
I am very badly installed in the car, I have the steering wheel too near to me, my arms are completely bent.
Do you also have this problem? Have you found a solution?
I am very badly installed in the car, I have the steering wheel too near to me, my arms are completely bent.
Do you also have this problem? Have you found a solution?
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westton- Posts : 36
Join date : 2019-11-30
Re: drive position
As simple as it sounds, make sure the seat adjuster is allowing the seat to go all the way back. You may have to remove the seat to make sure.
If your car uses the same seat adjuster as mine, then the seat just mounts with holes drilled through the floor. You may be able to redrill holes farther back and gain a little more room. Even 1 or 2 inches can make a difference in comfort.
Next would be the steering wheel. Is it dished or flat? There are flat wheels available to fit the Chevy steering column.
It might also be possible to move the entire steering column forward a little, but this might require fairly major work. There are aftermarket columns made for the hot rod industry available and they are made in many different lengths. This route would require some engineering on your part since it you would probably need a new upper and lower mount, as well as a shorter shaft between the column and steering rack. This would not be cheap fix. The columns and shafts are pretty expensive. Look at Flaming River and IDidit websites.
Of course the Healey was a fairly small car and the classic British sports car seating position was to have the steering wheel close and just about in your chest. Supposedly, this was to allow more leverage on the steering wheel, since sports cars nearly all came with manual steering. The Sebrings and Saxons more or less duplicate this seating position.
FWIW - I share your pain. I barely fit in my car and have gone to very extensive structural modifications to gain more room. This included a custom steel and aluminum firewall set further forward and rebuilding the area behind the seats to allow moving them back as far as possible. I also moved the pedal assembly and switched to different seats that sit a little higher. All this has made the car fit me very nicely.
If your car uses the same seat adjuster as mine, then the seat just mounts with holes drilled through the floor. You may be able to redrill holes farther back and gain a little more room. Even 1 or 2 inches can make a difference in comfort.
Next would be the steering wheel. Is it dished or flat? There are flat wheels available to fit the Chevy steering column.
It might also be possible to move the entire steering column forward a little, but this might require fairly major work. There are aftermarket columns made for the hot rod industry available and they are made in many different lengths. This route would require some engineering on your part since it you would probably need a new upper and lower mount, as well as a shorter shaft between the column and steering rack. This would not be cheap fix. The columns and shafts are pretty expensive. Look at Flaming River and IDidit websites.
Of course the Healey was a fairly small car and the classic British sports car seating position was to have the steering wheel close and just about in your chest. Supposedly, this was to allow more leverage on the steering wheel, since sports cars nearly all came with manual steering. The Sebrings and Saxons more or less duplicate this seating position.
FWIW - I share your pain. I barely fit in my car and have gone to very extensive structural modifications to gain more room. This included a custom steel and aluminum firewall set further forward and rebuilding the area behind the seats to allow moving them back as far as possible. I also moved the pedal assembly and switched to different seats that sit a little higher. All this has made the car fit me very nicely.
Hotrod- Posts : 990
Join date : 2014-06-17
Re: drive position
Agree with what Hotrod's said overall.
Not sure how tall you guys are. At ~5ft 11" with relatively short legs/tall torso I fit just fine, though my hair grazes the top a bit and I wish there was a dead-pedal at times. Flat steering wheel is a must (mine is from a Fiero). In driving position, there's about 1.5" between my seat back (stock CR seats) and the carpet of the rear deck.
It must be said that you cannot drive a Sebring or even a real Healey the same way you would a modern car. Hands at 9 and 3-oclock simply doesn't work with the door being so close. I tend to drive with my left hand around 10-11 and my right hand at 4-5 when it's not shifting. Elbow on the window sill at times. Not textbook form, but that's just how it works with old roadsters (even some of the Alfas and Porsches I've been in).
Not sure how tall you guys are. At ~5ft 11" with relatively short legs/tall torso I fit just fine, though my hair grazes the top a bit and I wish there was a dead-pedal at times. Flat steering wheel is a must (mine is from a Fiero). In driving position, there's about 1.5" between my seat back (stock CR seats) and the carpet of the rear deck.
It must be said that you cannot drive a Sebring or even a real Healey the same way you would a modern car. Hands at 9 and 3-oclock simply doesn't work with the door being so close. I tend to drive with my left hand around 10-11 and my right hand at 4-5 when it's not shifting. Elbow on the window sill at times. Not textbook form, but that's just how it works with old roadsters (even some of the Alfas and Porsches I've been in).
Re: drive position
As I said in my presentation I have a westfield seven and an R5 turbo, which are however also old cars, and I am very well installed.
In the Saxon I am so badly installed that I have no desire to ride with it! Even little old women have a more natural position to drive.
The steering wheel is flat so I couldn't gain anything by replacing it. I'll see if I can shorten the steering column or move the pedals to make things better.
In the Saxon I am so badly installed that I have no desire to ride with it! Even little old women have a more natural position to drive.
The steering wheel is flat so I couldn't gain anything by replacing it. I'll see if I can shorten the steering column or move the pedals to make things better.
westton- Posts : 36
Join date : 2019-11-30
Re: drive position
I have advanced the pedal box by 6cm towards me and I raised the seat by 3cm. It's much better. Not perfect, but better.
Otherwise I will move the steering wheel back to have the arms less bent
Otherwise I will move the steering wheel back to have the arms less bent
westton- Posts : 36
Join date : 2019-11-30
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Re: drive position
I had the same problem, no easy fix for me. Sooo, I replaced the steering column with an
Ididit hot rod column, 2 inch adapter, with a 13" flat dish steering wheel (Momo). Then I
cut out the glass behind the seat and re-glassed it 3" further back. Then I put thinner seats
in (Miata). After adjusting the pedals, I ended up with 6" more room from the steering wheel to me. Much, much better. Good Luck
Ididit hot rod column, 2 inch adapter, with a 13" flat dish steering wheel (Momo). Then I
cut out the glass behind the seat and re-glassed it 3" further back. Then I put thinner seats
in (Miata). After adjusting the pedals, I ended up with 6" more room from the steering wheel to me. Much, much better. Good Luck
angelo01- Posts : 7
Join date : 2017-01-10
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